that's a much more relevant debate that we'll focus on. >> if they do not see a new romney will they see a romney offering specifics as to deductions he might prefer in terms of what we now do not see in tax reform? >> it's hard to get into a whole lot of specifics particularly when you're talking about something as complex as all the deductions you would go through as part of tax reform. but on the issue of tax reform governor romney will offer a great deal of specifics about what he would do. >> that we've not heard before. >> yeah. a lot of that, you know, charlie depends on the questions. but i think a lot of what the specifics that you're talking about as far as what tax reform looks like, whether it's lowering the corporate rate in order to make sure we're more competitive as an economy in this global marketplace but also lowering middle class tax burden, broadening the base and making the american economy more competitive as a result, i think that you'll hear a great deal of specifics. most importantly you'll hear the contrast because the president's reforms haven't been enoug